Can you talk about the elephant in the room? Or is the pressure subtle, always masked, always out of direct view? In your discussions, are you seeking to persuade each other about what’s good and wise, or are you seeking to pressure and manipulate each other to avoid conflict?

Joe Rigney, Leadership and Emotional Sabotage

Rev. Eric Phillips is the pastor of Mt. Carmel Presbyterian Church and long-time friend and colleague of Nate Devlin. Pastor Eric is finishing his Doctor of Ministry degree at Covenant Seminary in St. Loiuse, MO. His area of research is on pastoral leadership and in this Special Edition of the Parrhesian Podcast, Eric interviews Nate on the subject of conflict in the church. Join Nate and Eric and find out why it is important to engage the conflict faithfully and courageously.